In this wide-ranging conversation, Steve and Kale wrestle with the feeling that reality itself is getting harder to pin down. From the dopamine doom loop of endless monitoring on X, to the collapse of the post-war consensus, the “scriptification” of news, vanishing scientists tied to advanced propulsion and UAP programs, Bob Lazar’s enduring story, and the sense that the singularity may already be here—we’re all lost in the infinite scroll, struggling to figure out Whats even real?